Comments on: The theft of our history http://rustygate.org/archives/922 because your life is boring Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:52:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mos_Native http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11870 Mos_Native Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:22:43 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11870 The heroes acre to honour those who had died during the war was noble and the one tomb that really has value is the tomb of the unknown soldier. They should have closed it after that and never have made it that huge to start of with. All that cement wasted on that elaborate structure, the national stadium and other ill-conceived white elephants would have better honoured those who died for this country if it had been used for more meaningful development like road infrastructure. Dont you see the irony when you juxtapose that monstrosity in its gleaming black granite, which is supposed to symbolise the history and the victory, looking over a ruined city? The heroes acre to honour those who had died during the war was noble and the one tomb that really has value is the tomb of the unknown soldier. They should have closed it after that and never have made it that huge to start of with. All that cement wasted on that elaborate structure, the national stadium and other ill-conceived white elephants would have better honoured those who died for this country if it had been used for more meaningful development like road infrastructure.

Dont you see the irony when you juxtapose that monstrosity in its gleaming black granite, which is supposed to symbolise the history and the victory, looking over a ruined city?

]]> By: Joe Black http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11868 Joe Black Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:14:36 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11868 I'm actually re-reading Josh Nkomo's memoirs right now, and the guy was mighty pissed with what Zimbabwe had become (in 1984). I’m actually re-reading Josh Nkomo’s memoirs right now, and the guy was mighty pissed with what Zimbabwe had become (in 1984).

]]> By: Tara http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11866 Tara Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:09:00 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11866 Yeah, but you know in America, if you a military man, you a Hero unless you a fuckup (and a big one at that, one that they cant keep under wraps). I dont know (on the monstrocity), I kinda like it. It looks nice as a place of special interest. Just not very thrilled with the exclusiveness of the whole thing. Am all for monuments to recognise blah blah blah, am just skeptical of those monuments in countries run like a Kingdom. Not liking that only a select few get to say what's what. Yeah, but you know in America, if you a military man, you a Hero unless you a fuckup (and a big one at that, one that they cant keep under wraps).

I dont know (on the monstrocity), I kinda like it. It looks nice as a place of special interest. Just not very thrilled with the exclusiveness of the whole thing. Am all for monuments to recognise blah blah blah, am just skeptical of those monuments in countries run like a Kingdom. Not liking that only a select few get to say what’s what.

]]> By: Buffdaddy http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11864 Buffdaddy Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:45:21 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11864 Term limits were only introduced in the both versions of the draft constitution. If we had voted yes. Mugabe would be ineligible to President. Further analysis of it makes one consider that had the no vote not carried the day Zany PF would not have been alert to the backlash and negativity of peeps and would not have mobilised the way they did. Term limits were only introduced in the both versions of the draft constitution. If we had voted yes. Mugabe would be ineligible to President.

Further analysis of it makes one consider that had the no vote not carried the day Zany PF would not have been alert to the backlash and negativity of peeps and would not have mobilised the way they did.

]]> By: Joe Black http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11862 Joe Black Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:22:39 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11862 Firstly, I understand Arlington is not for "heroes" per se, but for, like, errrbody who fights? I stand to be corrected. As for the two-term limit ... we never had one, did we? That's a foreign notion for us, methinks. Term limits? For the President? Uhm ... no. Firstly, I understand Arlington is not for “heroes” per se, but for, like, errrbody who fights? I stand to be corrected.

As for the two-term limit … we never had one, did we? That’s a foreign notion for us, methinks.

Term limits? For the President? Uhm … no.

]]> By: Mos_Native http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11860 Mos_Native Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:22:02 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11860 The Zanu PF Politburo decides what your hero status is - District, Provincial, National or none. Personally, that ridiculous monstrosity was a waste of money - korean bullshit to repay them for military assistance. The Zanu PF Politburo decides what your hero status is – District, Provincial, National or none.
Personally, that ridiculous monstrosity was a waste of money – korean bullshit to repay them for military assistance.

]]> By: Anonymous http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11858 Anonymous Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:52:02 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11858 Hectic executive ... President, 2 Vice Presidents, Prime Minister, 2 Deputy Prime Ministers, 3 Ministers Of State in the President's Office, 2 Ministers Of State in the Vice president's Office, 2 Ministers Of State in the Prime Minister's Office and 1 Minister Of State in the Deputy Prime Minister's Office. 14. wtf? Then 35 cabinet ministers and 14 (not 35?)Deputy Ministers. Again, wtf? And when did this happen: "The President is elected for a six-year term by all registered voters and may be re-elected for any number of additional terms." 6 terms not 5? And the two-term limit? Hectic executive …

President, 2 Vice Presidents, Prime Minister, 2 Deputy Prime Ministers, 3 Ministers Of State in the President’s Office, 2 Ministers Of State in the Vice president’s Office, 2 Ministers Of State in the Prime Minister’s Office and 1 Minister Of State in the Deputy Prime Minister’s Office. 14. wtf?

Then 35 cabinet ministers and 14 (not 35?)Deputy Ministers. Again, wtf?

And when did this happen:

“The President is elected for a six-year term by all registered voters and may be re-elected for any number of additional terms.”

6 terms not 5? And the two-term limit?

]]> By: Tara http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11856 Tara Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:44:28 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11856 Tell me, have they redefined 'Heroes' yet? Or rather, what are the criteria, other than being dead, for being eligible for burial at the Heroes Acres? It clearly isn't like the US' Arlington. Or is it? I only ask because, the gods forbid, if MT was to keel over and die, would he qualify based on the Wiki criteria? Would Unc really let that fly? Tell me, have they redefined ‘Heroes’ yet? Or rather, what are the criteria, other than being dead, for being eligible for burial at the Heroes Acres? It clearly isn’t like the US’ Arlington. Or is it? I only ask because, the gods forbid, if MT was to keel over and die, would he qualify based on the Wiki criteria? Would Unc really let that fly?

]]> By: Buffdaddy http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11854 Buffdaddy Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:39:14 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11854 the usual: President Mugabe yesterday said Zimbabwe’s sovereignty is non-negotiable and outsiders will only be entertained as partners in exploiting its resources for the development of the nation. Speaking at the burial of national heroine Amai Sunny Ntombiyelanga Takawira at the National Heroes Acre in Harare he said Zimbabwe’s destiny lies in Zimbabwean hands. Amai Takawira was the widow of the late veteran nationalist and first Zanu vice president Leopold Takawira. Present at the funeral were the 2 VPs Joice Mujuru and John Nkomo, PM Morgan Tsvangirai and his deputies Arthur Mutambara and Thokozani Khupe, Chief Justice Godfrey Chidyausiku, Senate President Edna Madzongwe, Cabinet ministers, Zanu-PF Politburo members, parliamentarians, service chiefs and Deputy Harare Mayor Emmanuel Chiroto – Herald, Tuesday January 19, Pg 1 the usual:

President Mugabe yesterday said Zimbabwe’s sovereignty is non-negotiable and outsiders will only be entertained as partners in exploiting its resources for the development of the nation. Speaking at the burial of
national heroine Amai Sunny Ntombiyelanga Takawira at the National Heroes Acre in Harare he said Zimbabwe’s
destiny lies in Zimbabwean hands. Amai Takawira was the widow of the late veteran nationalist and first Zanu vice president Leopold Takawira. Present at the funeral were the 2 VPs Joice Mujuru and John Nkomo, PM Morgan
Tsvangirai and his deputies Arthur Mutambara and Thokozani Khupe, Chief Justice Godfrey Chidyausiku, Senate President Edna Madzongwe, Cabinet ministers, Zanu-PF Politburo members, parliamentarians, service chiefs and Deputy Harare Mayor Emmanuel Chiroto – Herald, Tuesday January 19, Pg 1

]]> By: Joe Black http://rustygate.org/archives/922/comment-page-1#comment-11844 Joe Black Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:38:56 +0000 http://rustygate.org/?p=922#comment-11844 Anything interesting in the Heroes Acre speech? Anything interesting in the Heroes Acre speech?

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