Whites – beat your kids

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I can’t even. I just … can’t. I … ah feck it.

A 17-year-old boy is fighting for his life at Avenues Clinic in Harare after he was allegedly shot and injured by two juveniles who ambushed and opened fire at six cars on separate occasions in one night. Harare provincial police spokesperson Chief Inspector James Sabau yesterday confirmed the arrest of Ralph Nicholson (17) and Taylor Cameron (19).

They were at Avondale police cells by yesterday facing attempted murder charges.

Chief Insp Sabau said allegations are that on Sunday night at around 11pm, one of the complainants, who is a male adult, was driving a Toyota Estima along Leopold Takawira Road from the city to Avondale.

“The complainant was stopped by traffic lights at the intersection of Cork Road and King George in Avondale. While there, he heard three gunshot sounds but could not see the person who was firing them.

“The driver proceeded to give a report at Avondale Police station,” he said.

Chief Insp Sabau said while making a report, another man also came driving a yellow taxi and reported that his passenger window had been shot at the same place.

“Policemen reacted swiftly and went to the scene and arrested Ralph and Taylor at a bush near the intersection.

“The two were in possession of a pellet gun and 20 pellets rounds,” he said.

Police also recovered 2.2 mm rifle.

“It was later established that the two firearms belonged to Ralph’s father and Ralph had stolen the gun cabinet keys and proceeded to steal the firearms,” he said.

I’m guessing by the time they were captured, they’d run out of ammo for the .22 rifle. This could have been much worse.

Please, white people. Please. Beat your goddamn kids!

Tsk!

Update 1 – Is this Taylor Cameron the same one who ran away from home at 16 in 2009? The timeline certainly fits. Also, if he is the same guy, then he also used to be a drummer in a Christian rock band. Sometimes the stuff just writes itself.

update 2 – These little feckers are charged with 10 counts of attempted murder. They’ve been remanded out of custody til August 8th. If they were black? Come on, man. Be insulted

Published by Joe Black

56 Replies to “Whites – beat your kids”

  6. speaking of white kids that weren’t beaten enough, uyu wekupisa cricket academy akazoitwa seyi. As Skriff said, is he someone’s wife in Chikurubi?

  7. Mark Vermeulen, but he just had … issues, lol.

    So the little demons are charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, but get remanded out of custody.

  8. It is disgusting, im reading Ralphs facebook page and he thinks its a joke while another child is fighting for his life, what the hell is that!!! makes me sick to the pit of my stomach, he will be someones bitch in jail!!!

  9. and why is this so quiet, why are they out on bail for a premeditated viscous and senseless act? why why why???

  10. maybe they are out because the true facts are with the courts. As for rusty, I used to appreciate some of your comments, however now you are just coming out as a rabid racist, and you are going to give us blacks a bad name

  11. Hey, I’m telling the truth as I see it. If you don’t like it … the Internet is a big place. These kids are out because they’re white. Simple fact.

  12. “now you are just coming out as a rabid racist, and you are going to give us blacks a bad name”

    please be careful beezy, the perception of the black races depends on your utterances.

  15. Hey, I don’t know who you are and why you’re writing this, but I’m a friend of taylor’s and know him well. He was in a Christian rock band, and does have a faith.

    Remember Jesus’ words when he said “Whoever is without sin, cast the first stone.”

    I find this blog racial, frankly, it’s not like all white people are criminals or that we don’t believe in discipline. I thought this racial tension should be resolved by now…

  16. hmmmm, good point @ theawesomebloke. Joe, i dont think they are out just because they are white, could just be that daddy knows someone high up, or daddy has lots of money, there could be extenuating circumstances or ‘other reasons’ but that’s just speculation….

    There are probably many other thugs and criminals of different hues walking free today because they know someone too.

    the bottom line is, white, black or purple, what these little horrors did is truly messed up and they should be punished as harshly as is possible by law, anyone in their right mind knows that they deserve the full wrath of the law and possibly a sound beating by anyone who happens to run into them!

    @ Duncan, where these guys thinking of Jesus teachings when they were shooting at people??? and since you and the young Fredrick Zoller are such tight chomies, why don’t you shed some light on what happened then????? hmmmm…. oh do tell what kind of faith young mr taylor has flowing through him if he can indulge in such malicious and wanton acts of violence against innocent people. while it is admirable that you stand up for your friend, no amount of faith or christian band playage can make up for the rubbish these guys got up to.

  17. they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery.
    5 Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?”
    6 This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground.
    7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”
    8 And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground.
    9 But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him.
    10 Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
    11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”

  18. Hi Duncan, fair comment about how you find this post, it is your opinion. My point was, and still is, you don’t find black kids doing this kind of shit. For obvious disciplinary reasons.

    Jesus’s words about casting stones etc mean nothing to me, at all. You say you know Taylor well, and that he does have “faith”.

    So are you saying he WASN’T in camouflage, hiding in a spot, sniping at passing cars?

    IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

    Because if that’s what you’re saying, and vouching for these little terrors, I will apologise profusely, right here, in a new post.

    Are they innocent, Duncan Padmore?

  19. Nice, quote from the Bible. Duncan, I see how you may want to fight for your friend and bandmate, but so far you’re not saying anything bruv.

    Was he, or was he not, shooting at people? That’s all that matters, both to me and at law.

  20. Duncan, spouting verses from the bible instead of answering the moral and ethical questions raised by these acts of senseless violence is starting to make you sound like a religious nut.

    do you think you can explain away the crime by basically saying ‘what would Jesus do’?

    The story so far points to premeditated violence, carried out with forethought and malice. What if someone had been killed, would you expect the parents, wife or children of the victim(s) to take comfort in the fact that your friend Taylor has FAITH AND WAS IN A FUCKING CHRISTIAN BAND?!!!!

    Seriously dude, give us something to work with here, like you said, you know the guy very well, so you are in the best position to give us insight into his thought process’s, or maybe even a glimpse of whats going on in the background.

    Please don’t say the voices told him to do it….

  21. eh! wena Duncan, isnt this the same fellow that went missing with a certain Kirsty Padmore sometime back? this Kirsty any relation to you?

  22. The fact here is that these kids did something horrible, us Zimbabweans are gentle peaceful people by nature so it was shocking to hear this happened here an act so cold, and when i read the facebook page of one of them it was like he wasnt taking it seriously, regardless of race they need to be punished and its not right that they are walking the streets and we the public know this, there is nothing they can say to justify their cold calculated acts…… im disgusted, shocked, appalled and disappointed….does anyone know how the child in hospital is doing? Imagine what his parents are going through right now? Horror!!!

  23. So are you saying he WASN’T in camouflage, hiding in a spot, sniping at passing cars? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

    – No, not at all.

    Nice, quote from the Bible. Duncan, I see how you may want to fight for your friend and bandmate, but so far you’re not saying anything bruv.

    – I only put the Bible verse there because you didn’t understand it when I said it in my own words.

    Duncan, spouting verses from the bible instead of answering the moral and ethical questions raised by these acts of senseless violence is starting to make you sound like a religious nut.

    – Oh, ok.

    do you think you can explain away the crime by basically saying ‘what would Jesus do’?

    – No but I think it explains how our responses to crime should be.

    …would you expect the parents, wife or children of the victim(s) to take comfort in the fact that your friend Taylor has FAITH AND WAS IN A FUCKING CHRISTIAN BAND?!!!!

    – No not at all. There’ve been some Christians that are very sinful, and there’ve been non-christians who aren’t as sinful, who are ‘better’ people. I didn’t bring up the christian band thing, that was part of the post…

    Seriously dude, give us something to work with here, like you said, you know the guy very well, so you are in the best position to give us insight into his thought process’s, or maybe even a glimpse of whats going on in the background.

    – Well it doesn’t seem like you’re tryna help him, so no, I’m not gonna give you more information that will be used against him.

    Please don’t say the voices told him to do it….

    – I have no idea what you mean by this. This sounds like something from a movie.

    In essence, yes, he was wrong. But does it mean that we should judge and compound the problem by making people hate Taylor? Have you met Taylor? Or are you judging him on this one act?

  24. Anyway,

    I’m not gonna be commenting here anymore. The reason I initially posted is because I found this on google, and I simply don’t see a need for blog posts like this.

    What do they help? Does it help to resolve racial tension? Have you got any kind words to say?

    Regardless if I’m a friend of Taylor’s or not, this is racial, it’s rude, and it’s none of your business.

    The state deals with crime the way it decides to, and it’s not up to you to go around making things worse and causing readers to hate another person that they’ve never met.

  25. Great, a response with substance. Let me respond.

    Do you want to know why I’m blogging about this? Because it’s shocking. And I am well within my rights to comment about what I see fit.

    Whether you see it fit or not.

    Remember, you came here, and you didn’t have to respond to anything I have to say, or any opinions I have on this matter of public record.

    It is my prerogative to call a nasty, demonic little a nasty, demonic little shit.

    If you choose not to, don’t. That’s YOUR prerogative.

    I’m not trying to save the world, Duncan. Neither am I trying to make anyone hate anyone else. I’m merely expressing myself, the way I see fit, in a medium of my choice.

    Surely you, as a musician, can understand that?

    Oh wait, it doesn’t agree with YOUR personal views on sin (which are irrelevant) and your friend (also irrelevant) so you have a problem with it?

    Please, I call it as I see it.

    I’ll judge Taylor on this one act because it is a heinous act. Judge not, you say? No thanks, I’ll judge all I want.

  26. Honestly though, I love your loyalty. Basically your argument is just “Leave him alooooone”.

    “Regardless if I’m a friend of Taylor’s or not, this is racial, it’s rude, and it’s none of your business.”

    I’ll disregard the first part, just your opinion and fair comment, but the second part … VERY MUCH my business. Cos I could easily have been one of those people on Avondale Road.

  27. As a musician I understand that music has a profound affect on it’s listeners, and so there’s a responsibility that’s assumed when I pick up a pen to write or when I open my mouth to sing. There’s more to it than just expression.

    I think it’s the same with blog posts. I don’t think anyone should just write about whatever hits their brain – they should consider the affects it will have on others, too.

    I’ve seen your view and it is within your rights to say what you like. And as a commenter, I’m sure it’s within my rights to disagree and hopefully persuade other readers to think the same.

  28. Of course it’s within your rights to comment, that’s why I have comments enabled 🙂

  29. JB,look, he’s afraid he might incriminate his beloved friend. He knows something, no?! 🙂

    Probably the most bizarre thread yet. I would be entertained if I wasn’t creeped out by the ‘forgive and forget’ attitude. The ‘you should not be enraged’ and you shouldn’t judge ‘tude is really pissing me off. I know it’s your opinion, to which you are entitled, but dang, man, did you really just quote the bible there? Been a while since someone did that in my virtual presence. Actually kinda tickled by that. Q? Did you have to look that up, or you been sitting on that one while, just for this sort of occasion. God, you remember in school when you had to memorise stuff like that. I only ever remembered Genesis 1:1 and some of John 14:1. Never understood what the latter meant myself. Only remember it from the song, in Shona. Then there was ‘Jesus wept’. Very dramatic. Oh, and there’s always the lord’s my shepard (and the rest of it which i have no idea about). My favourite was always ‘the force be with you’. Got a lot of mileage on that last when when life got tricky and shit.

    So let me get this straight, when people all of a sudden quote the bible, is it the presumption that the earth will stand still, and anyone listening will all of a sudden see the error of their ways and repent or something like that? Like it’s got the equivalent effect as God smotting (smitting, striking down with lightning) someone for being a naughty boy.

    Reading the music has a profound affest on listeners, I honestly thought he was going to blame heavy metal rock music or something. Hiphop, of course, but not heavy metal. Yes, when I read he was a rock drummer, I immediately imagined heavy metal. Only way that christian rock is remotely interesting.

    Duncan, I’m just going to assume you’re just a kid. 18 maybe. No no, don’t argue, it’s better this way. Really!

    IN MY OPINION!!!

  30. I’m 18, yes, but I became a man 5 years ago, when I was thirteen. This is an ad hominem attack, and I don’t see how it holds ANY water to reduce the validity of anything I say. Surely what’s been said is more important (especially in this case) than the person saying it?

    About the Bible and how it doesn’t mean much to you… well it does to me. I base my life on it. It’s actually about the only thing I can believe when we live in a world where everything is relative. No opinion is better than another or more true than another. In other words there’s no “real truth.” But I disagree. The Bible has not changed since it was written, prophecies in it have come to pass, and a lot of the wisdom in it could not possibly have come from mere humans. I suggest you read the Bible (the whole thing) and see if you still disagree. It’s the only truth that stays solid and relevant. So to answer your question, no I don’t believe the earth will stand still and everyone will listen. But I do believe that’s the way it should be when it comes to the Bible.

    Remember, no matter what your views, there’s a big difference between the way things are and the way things ought to be. If there wasn’t that difference, there would be no need for Jesus to come and die for us.

    I believe the Bible is the Word of God and I’m treating it that way, or at least I try to treat like that – with the reverence and respect it deserves. If it says something, God said it, so it must be true. That’s the way I see the book.

    This is a completely unrelated note that you’re hammering me about musical genre’s and what I do and do not approve of. I think any sort of music can be used to glorify God. There’s Lecrae (hip hop/rap), Red (Heavy Rock), and DC Talk (kind of a mix) which are all very good examples of music that people have made to glorify God.

  32. I thought I would let my anger subside before i really commented! DUNCAN WHAT???….I don’t want to judge and condemn BUT i don’t want those boys anywhere near my kids. Lock them up. They do not deserve to be in society. And it’s unfortunate that them being locked up might ruin their lives but this is the REAL world. There are consequences for ALL actions. (I won’t be condescending and bring your age into it)
    Duncan I know it hurts to see your friends go through this but that is their journey now. You can pray for them and trust God. i don’t know them, I don;t trust them and they threaten my personal space. i don’t like that!
    My question is: WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET THESE KIDS LOCKED AWAY FROM MY KIDS??? WHO DO I HAVE TO CALL?
    And to JB: we’ve battled this out already but u know that if it was a black litie they would have rich parents who would call their connection and pay some shiz and they would be out too. IT’S NOT a racial issue.

  33. CALLED IT!

    At JB, bite me!

    Duncan, I was playing just with you (too easy), for the most part. Plus it was a slow day. But seriously, you need to lighten up. Life’s too damn short to be so broody. Especially when you got people waving pellet guns around for kicks. 🙂

  34. WorriedMom, it is impossible for black kids to hide in a ditch with a rifle and a pellet gun shooting at people.

    Black kids will steal the car, if he has an accident and kills someone, it was an ACCIDENT! You won’t a black kid doing this type of shit. Because they know, rich or not.

    I remember the time I stole a 25c piece from my momma’s purse to go play Space Invaders at Chegutu Hotel.

    I SMACK told SMACK you SMACK never SMACK to SMACK touch SMACK my SMACK purse SMACK SMACK SMACK!

  35. suck it all up, BLACK WHITE GREEN YELLOW AND PINK, we all have a mind and all stray from walking the line at times, but must take respectability for our actions, what they did was wrong, and must deal with what comes up, i ride in all parts of Zimbabwe, and because i come across some (black) guy or child, throwing a stone at me, placing a wire across a path at head high, all of what can kill a person at that speed, must i say all (blacks) are the same,,,,,NO, i was born in Zimbabwe, love the country and the Shona people, (WE) have the best custom in the world, and reading some of your posts, it is showing me that you are forgetting that!, when are racist comments going to stop, im not just talking of all you here, the white people too, i look bad because im (white), and some other (white) says some foolish joke, you are doing the same, think before you type, and 9 times out of 10, you all have big things to say on paper, but when confronted, run to mommy, we all have the power to make Zimbabwe the best country in the world, man up and do your part too,,,,

  36. So what you’re saying is …

    … you want to the arbitrator of all our comments?

    Unfortunately the real world doesn’t work like that, my friend. You’re waffling on about “think before you type” blah blah.

    It’s called freedom of expression. You behave as if there is some high, absolute moral standard of commentary that everyone should be held to.

    That’s dicatorship, and we REFUSE to be controlled.

    I don’t see how this can be difficult to understand:

    I HAVE MY OPINION AND I WILL EXPRESS IT AS I SEE FIT.

    If you don’t appreciate it … just … fuck … off 🙂

  37. Also, are you saying that there are black people who take rifles and shoot at people for no fucking reason? REALLY?

    Show me. I’ll beat them myself. Yes, ALL kids are idiots, we’ve all seen the consequences of stupidity on the part of teenagers.

    But again, YOU WILL NOT SEE BLACK KIDS STEALING RIFLES AND PLAYING CALL OF DUTY!

    And that, whether you like it or not, is a fact.

  38. Right ima go pick my beauties up from school now and fo shuwa I will protect them from all the violent, stupid white kids out there!

  40. my friend,,,, grow up, say what you like, you are free to do so, i had two black friends at school, R.I.P. that shot themselves playing with guns, so do not make bets your mouth cannot cover, it is funny, how a chat room about about 2 kids doing a foolish thing, and my outlook on it,,(they should have NOT been let out, should still be under lock and key now,)but somehow it has turned out to a black and white issue,,,,,,,,that’s all

  41. Your anger is cute, but has no effect on me.

    Again, you’ve proved my point. You say you had friends that shot themselves … they didn’t go to the corner and start shooting at cars driving past.

    Calm down.

  42. P.S. Joe Black is correct WorriedMom,, your free to say as you please, dont cross out stupid WHITE kids, say what you like, so what you are telling me, a black 14y old boy stole a car and crashed into my sister, and she almost died, “so must i protect my children from black drivers, as your saying that its all the same?”

  43. For someone who says “suck it up” you’re not sucking it up very well, are you?

    By the way, I’M the one who crossed out ‘white’ in her comment.

  44. JB,,, DUDE,,, how about the sniper issue in the US, a black man and black boy, shooting people out the boot of the car, how many people did they kill,,, its nothing to do with color, that’s all,

  46. If we are bringing the US into things it just makes it even harder to stay impartial as all the psychotic serial killer types, latest one included, are the same.

  48. Yahhh about that JB why’d u cross out my word? I was trying to humour u in yr racist bullshit and you cross out my comment ah ya ya ya yaaaah 😛

  50. i am neither black nor am i white, this is not about race or the bible it is about the act that was committed and the offenders are out on bail walking the streets THAT is what the problem here is, for every action there are consequences…. so lets ditch the race issue coz you will play “he said, she said” all day long….

  51. His name is Ridwaan Bhaijee (?), and I have no idea of his condition.

    I think for the race issue, it’s just a matter of people getting shit off their chests and venting. It’s aight.

  52. Tara, you crack me up gurl!

    Anyhooooo, for true this really shouldn’t be a race issue, its really about some young punks that committed a heinous crime, white, black or purple, they must pay!

    Duncan, you’re not making any sense china.

    in your own words; I think it’s the same with blog posts. I don’t think anyone should just write about whatever hits their brain – they should consider the affects it will have on others, too.

    so the same naturally would apply to people getting dressed up in camo gear and shooting at people for fun because the idea just hits their brain no???? (bet they were humming the A Team tune while they were doing this)

    Seriously Duncan, you need to lighten up. all this tension you got going on is showing even through the interwebs, that shit will give you cancer man!

    I dont even know you and im getting worried about you, damn emo bastered! (ah jus jhoks brah.), but this is exactly how its starts!

  54. ok i have googled him, he is a Varsity graduate that was on holiday at home (Zimz) and he is doing well and getting better *juss saying for anyone that was interested* this young man will be a productive member of our society and sad that his life was almost snuffed out… let us know when the little horrors are in jail…. 🙂 😉

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